de l'origen dels ministeris espanyols i exclusió dels catalans

https://mariolv.carto.com/viz/892bc502-48dc-4fe2-a88b-166085ea41d1/embed_map

En dades: https://politica.elpais.com/politica/2016/11/03/actualidad/1478202328_723969.html

En primers ministres, excloent la breu I República espanyola (1874-1876) només hi ha hagut un català primer ministre, i només durant un dia.

https://es.wikipedia.org/wiki/Presidente_del_Consejo_de_Ministros_de_Espa%C3%B1a

Es detecta el patró, no?

comentari a un article sobre clara ponsatí : de la legalitat del referèndum

l'article original aquí:

https://www.scotsman.com/news/politics/spanish-academics-slam-scots-support-for-clara-ponsati-1-4717121

Els comentaris d'alguns lectors defensen l'actuació d'Espanya, pq el referèndum "era il·legal". En la meva resposta defenso, argumentadament i citant fonts, que el referèndum era legal i legítim.


The new catalan statute of autonomy was approved by 120 of 135
seats in catalan parliament. After some changes where devolution was
reduced, approved also by the spanish parliament. Then approved later by
catalans in referendum. That statute allowed catalans to make
referendums. (https://ca.wikipedia.org/wi... )
The Constitutional court (that is not part of the
judicial system. is part of the political) did an interpretation of the
constitution that reduced more that statute, acting against both
parliament and the population sovereignity, and did it on an illegal
way. The process towards independence began then, there.
For javier perez royo, catedratic of constititional laws, the way in which the constitutional court was acting was a coup d'etat
( https://elpais.com/diario/2... )
The interpretation of the constitution itself was illegal, since was against
the treaties that Spain has signed. And the interpretation should be done, always, according to the frame that those treaties make.
Was illegal also since the composition of the tribunal itself was not according to the law, while was illegal also on other questions, like as example the time
they took to do it. All the procedure was full of irregularities and
illegalities. The statute that the constitutional court did was
different from the original. And was not voted on referendum (as the law
says that should be) so, since 2010, Catalonia is not legally attached
to spain. The main law that regulates it is illegal.
Ater that, a catalan delegation went to the spanish parliament, after huge
demonstrations in catalonia and the support according to polls of more
than 80% of catalan people for a referendum, to ask for a referendum
about the issue or to let catalans to do it.
Spain, according to the
international signed treaties, must have allowed it. But, having 5
different ways to allow it, forbid it.
This was in 2014 (https://www.parlament.cat/w...
Catalans have asked recently for 18 times before they tried to do it on their own. 18 times.
So, the catalan parliament, according to the catalan statute and the international laws (that spain should obey ) approved a law of referendum. The law was legal on all its
terms (ays 6 and 7 september 2017: all the procedure was legal ( https://www.vilaweb.cat/not... ) when the referendum machinery began to run. The constitutional
"court" declared it illegal, but when did it was acting illegally, since
that was against the rights of catalans as a nationality (and the
constitution says that catalans are a nationality). So the constitutional court should have interpreted the constitution according to the rights of catalans and treaties signed by spain, while acted according to the partisanism of the composition of the court (where its president was militant of the popular party: https://politica.elpais.com... )
At the moment of taking place the referendum (1st of october), was not yet illegal since the constitutional court was not yet declared it illegal. it did so on 18 of october (https://politica.elpais.com... The catalan law ofthe referendum was "in suspension" waiting for a decision, so the
referendum was not illegal. As much, was allegal. So the police battoned
paceful people for doing an allegal thing that was not known yet if would be declared legal or illegal.
According to the spanish laws, the laws, referendums are not illegal. Declarations of
independence are not illegal. And they arent also according to the
international law.
All the actions of the spanish state related to this issue, and the list is huge, are illegal. As couldnt be on any other way. does anyone thinks, common sense in mind, that casting your opinion on a ballot is a crime??
Where are the rights of expression, reunion, manifestation..? Were are the most basic human rights or the civil rights?
Defending spain in this issue is clearly puting the defender in the side of the worst of the nationalisms: the imperialism.
Europe talks about rule of law, but is on the side of breaking the rule of law and going against human rights and civil rights.

comentari a un article: whats next for catalonia?

Article : http://harvardpolitics.com/world/whats-next-for-catalonia/

comentari:

let me point out some  questions:

1.- About the "slight mayority": according to the results of the last elections done in catalonia the last 21st of december 2018, the different parties and ideologies represented by them obtained the next percentages:
- Ciudadanos (extreme right, spanishness) = 25,3 %
- Partido Popular (center right, spanishness, party that dominates full spain)= 4,3%
Ciudadanos and Partido Popular are the adamantly opposed to independence= 29,5%

- Partit dels Socialistes de Catalunya (center left, catalanist, federalist): 13,8%
- Podem-En Comú (Eu-IC) (lefttish, catalanist, federalist, neutral on the indy issue): 7,4%
PSC and Comuns defend a catalan state federated as equal to the spanish state. En comú in particular was neutral on the independence issue, so both had part of the independentist votes.

- CUP (leftish, catalanist, neatly independentist) = 4,46%
- ERC (center left, catalanist, neatly independentist) = 21,38%
- Junts per catalunya (center right, catalanist, neatly independentist) = 21,66%
Cup, ERC and Junts make 47,5% neatly independentist

So there is here a 68,75% of voters backing a catalan state. Thats not a slight majority.
Theres at least a 47,5% clearly independentist, but only a 29,5% clearly anti independence.
Have been more clearly indepentist voters in this 21st elections than there were in the 1st of october referendum (when state terrorized people in order to avoid them to go to vote. More than 2 milion voted then for independence).

You simply cant trust on the surveys done by spain on the issue.
The only way to know if there is a majority of catalans who want independence is to let them express. And that, existing legal ways to be done, cant be done because of the denial of the spanish state. By this way, the spanish state is opposing to more than 80% of catalan people who, independentist or not, think that have the right to express their opinion. And thats not a slight majority either.

2.- After that , you say that is all about selfishness. What would happen if..? (corsica, sardinia, sicily, Venice, Basque country, and so on). About this issue: what about the selfishness of the beneficiaries of the status quo? What about that majority of spaniards who deny a national minority to have rights? Thats not an issue?

Catalans are doing a revolution consisting in trying to change borders, againts the will ot the state within they are, and without the blood that uses to be required to write them on the maps.

3.- Finally: is not a matter of catalan nationalism since the only nationalism in catalonia consists in saying that catalans are a nation. You can call them nationalists if you do the same to any person in the world who defends that his nation is a nation.
The only dangerous nationalism is imperialism, consisting in one nation walking over another. Nazism was imperialism (the III Reich, do you remember?). Spain has a long imperialist tradition (mixed with fanatic religion). USSR was imperialism. Mussolini was imperialism (remembering the roman empire times and with campaign in greece included).The european nationalism itself began as a reaction to the napoleonic imperialism. While the worldwide extension was also a reaction againts imperialist colonialism.

So dont mix the questions, please.
The majority for a catalan sovereighnity is not slight at all (68,75% for statehood, more than 80% for the right of vote)
The question of selfishness should be rethinked.
The use of the nationalist issue is closely a manipulation of the real facts since ignores the real question: imperialism.

thanks for your approach to this issue; sorry for my poor english. Thanks for reading my comment. Have a nice day.

tabàrnia

Tabàrnia és un concepte nascut de l'unionisme que pretèn separar la "Catalunya unionista i productiva" de la "Catalunya rural i independentista".
He creat una imatge, partint d'una imatge creada pels defensors de Tabàrnia, unint els resultats electorals per municipis amb el seu mapa, explicant així que no es tracta de res més que d'una forma de Gerrymandering.

El mapa dels resultats electorals es troba aquí (clicar aquí).
Explicació del Gerrymandering en anglès https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gerrymandering i en castellà https://es.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gerrymandering

La imatge obtinguda és aquesta:

(actualització 31-I-'18) Al español inquieto por el auge de la derecha extrema: tranquilo. 

Que no te engañen. El fanatismo recalcitrante y religioso que viste el nacionalismo español es una sobrecompensación para que no se note que lo que une España es el miedo y el odio, fundamentados en el Derecho de Conquista, el autoritarismo, la represión y la ignorancia. Viendo como funcionan los medios españoles y qué leyes se hacen, la solución que se da es más ignorancia y más represión. De modo que la conciencia nacional española se fundamenta en el temor y el conformismo propio de súbditos de un reino. 

Si compartes esos valores y odias, desde la ignorancia y el desprecio a quienes se atreven a quejarse, no tendrás ningún problema con el Estado.
La mayoría de españoles seguirá votando partidos consevadores (fruto del miedo); y sus principales graneros de votos seguirán siendo los conjuntos de población menos instruidos, más monolingües y más presos de la ignorancia. Son mayoría. Así que el futuro de España, tal y como la conocemos (pobre, corrupta y antidemocrática) está garantizado por generaciones.